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Monday, May 11, 2015

Rothera to Halley Crude Calculation of Distance






Here's a short video that purports to document a trip from Rothera to Halley. Kirk Watson is a filmographer who created the documentary.  He closed his comments section on his Youtubes however. I'm not ready to interview anyone yet anyway since all my calculations so far are fairly inaccurate. The video is interesting in this age of Youtube and INternet however-- and motivates me to finally determine how long Antarctica's coast is so that we can determine if Earth is global or flat. 

7 comments:

  1. It won't make much difference that you have switched E and W, but to give Rothera a Northern Latitude does skew the result slightly!

    I wonder if the following is just sloppy journalism..
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2648269/Just-chilling-How-British-scientists-Antarctica-cut-rest-world-14-months-ways-relax.html
    One of the nearest bases to Halley is base Rothera, although the distance between the two bases is almost the same as the distance between London and Moscow.


    Well, the true distance is 2498km to Moscow from London but the calculated distance between Rothera and Halley is 1676km, which is not even close.
    The co-ordinates of the stations are published here
    http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/living_and_working/research_stations/index.php

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  2. Ok I'll go through that again thanks.

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  3. You're right of course... I'm new to this. Rothera & Halley are "west" of the International Date Line-- and Longitude lines go WEST from there-- which is the direction of Rothera and Halley. They're at 73W and 30W respectively. Rothera is a "lower latitude number" but higher on the globe/map which is tricky too. IT's at 70 whereas Halley is a HIGHER southern Latitude... but lower down on the globe-- at 75.

    So Rothera [73W/70S] and Halley is [30W/75S]. Popping those numbers into the calculator gives me 809 nautical miles... still way off. Back to the drawing board.

    Calculator I used.
    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gccalc.shtml

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  4. Nice video - the plane's a Basler BT-67 which is modified DC-3 apparently C-GEAI. The sister craft C-GEAJ had a crash towards the pole in 2009 en route from Novo (70º49'52ºS 11º38'22"E) to Tony Camp (74º04'56"S 10º54'28"E, about 194NM south of Novo, apparently delivering spare parts for an expedition.
    http://avherald.com/h?article=412e3363
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110429213358/http://classic.ipy.org/development/eoi/proposal-details.php?id=97


    There's some squabbling in the comments there but allegedly this is what was going on [a bit later than Interntional Polar Year 2007-8] mainly I think because the crashed plane didn't feature in the project photos which featured a Kenn Borekof Calgary air craft:
    http://www.ig.utexas.edu/research/projects/icecap/gallery.htm
    https://plus.google.com/photos/115320514546683817255/albums/5412082440013771553?banner=pwa
    http://web.archive.org/web/20090516013515/http://www.jsg.utexas.edu/news/rels/102808.html

    The leader of the expedition was Martin Siegert, now of Imperial College, London, and
    Co-Director,Grantham Institute forClimate Change & Environment He leads the Lake Ellsworth Consortium - a UK-NERC funded programme that aims to explore a large subglacial lake beneath the ice of West Antarctica
    http://www.imperial.ac.uk/people/m.siegert
    I wonder how the plane was salvaged. Answer...
    This video shows the salvage in 2009
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOwQuQfquRI
    wow, the video says it was shuttling fuel drums not spare parts....and it's now 500 NM not 194NMsouth of the ALCI runway base"

    I wonder what's really going on down there.

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  5. a couple of comments there are interesting....
    https://www.youtube.com/embed/MOwQuQfquRI
    Sirstyle82 3 years ago
    Great video. i have actually met the pilots that crash landed the plane in Antarctica this year, great guys by the way. i was there this year and i flew home with the IL 76.

    ftp2leta 2 years ago
    Mmmm.. I just don't get one thing, all those effort, people, time.. how much is an old DC3 worthed.

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  6. strange - the distance calculator gives the distance as 300 NM.....
    [not that there is anything to prove it's in Antarctica anyway...]

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  7. An accumulation of anomalies, however small, will be good as we go along here. If a perimeter Antarctica is being covered up, they're bound to make mistakes with the amount of youtubes and other bloggers' coverage now.

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Hi, I'm Captain Rick of the Virtual Circumference Voyage of Antarctica. I intend to prove definitively if Earth is flat or a sphere by paying careful attention to how many miles we cover as we travel "around" Antarctica. Flat earth theory says it's 50-60,000 miles. Spherical Earth theory says it 14,000 miles. Join me and ask any questions that you think would help our mission.

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