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Sunday, June 7, 2015

All routes to South Pole start on "left half", none on "right half"

Left and right half are lousy terms to use to apply to Antarctica but the maps of routes to South Pole DO seem to be divided like that. Normally, geographers label Antarctica by East and West. West is on the normal left half of a map with the Peninsula at 10:00 and McMurdo at 6:00. However some journeys to the south pole seem to start at 12:00. NONE seem to originate from 12:00 to 6:00 considering Antarctica as a clock circle. I don't know what this means, yet, as applied to the flat earth ice rim Antarctica. Here's a bing search on antarctica south pole route so that you can take a look at what I mean. Notice how all the routes to south pole ORIGINATE from 6:00 to 12:00 and NONE from 12:00 to 6:00. routes to the south pole - Bing Images

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  1. I'm fascinated by the Concordia Station - it's about 4:30 on the "Antarctic clock" which I mentioned earlier, in the Australian claim.
    http://rickpotvinflatearth.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/antarctic-train-at-dumont-durville.html

    http://blogs.esa.int/concordia/
    This writer says the distnce inland from McMurdo to Concordia is comparable with that from the Italian Base Mario Zuchelli - 1200km [cf 1100 from Dumont D'Urville to Concordia] on Terra Nova Bay.

    map:
    https://thelastdegrees.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/cleanedmapwithoden.jpg?w=500&h=445
    In order to fly here, first I left McMurdo in a Twin Otter plane to Mario Zuchelli, the Italian station at Terra Nova Bay. We flew along the coast and landed on Terra Nova’s ice runway (we landed on the frozen ocean!) to switch to a larger plane that took us inland towards Concordia. Fuel burns up quite fast in cold conditions, so we had to refuel at a very empty halfway point called Midpoint Charlie (referring to ‘halfway to Dome C) before finally arriving at Concordia.

    This seems rather strange - surely large planes could be used for onward travel towards Concordia without the need to travel AWAY from Concordia first?? Does she mean "smaller plane" not "larger plane"? If they are unloading the Basler at the Italian base, it means they took off from McMurdo in it, not the Twin Otter as she wrote.

    Here's her [Alex Moss] video of the flights:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1v5mL2UsPg

    They change from C-FMKB [Basler BT-67 a 1942 DC-3!]] to C-GKCS [Twin Otter]; refuelling at midpoint C at about 4:20, whereupon the camera's battery died, apparently.

    The flights come in and out via the South Pole, apparently
    http://blogs.esa.int/concordia/2015/04/03/winter-is-coming/

    The ESA-sponsored medical doctor has arrived in Antarctica (more from him soon) and the last caravan of supplies is travelling over 1000 km from Dumont d’Urville on the Antarctic coast to Concordia research base.
    In addition to the regular air transport, three expeditions called Raid trails arrive with heavier equipment. The traverse across Antarctica takes ten days to complete, climbing over 3000 m to reach the plateau where Concordia was built.

    http://blogs.esa.int/concordia/2013/01/25/raid-trails/
    [videoof trail arriving at Concordia]
    Pulled by heavy-duty tractors, the caravans carry 150 tonnes of fuel, food and heavy equipment each time and are organised by the French polar institute IPEV. Once at Concordia, three days are spent unpacking and preparing for the return trip. The trip back to the coast generally takes two days less as it is downhill most of the way.
    Question - why don't they come from McMurdo by some kind of treaty co-operation? It looks closer.

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    1. I'll look at this using my flat earth labelled map and see if it makes more sense on that-- similar to how flight paths of commercial planes makes more sense on a flat earth southern hemisphere than a globe.

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  2. I was looking at the Southern Pole of Inaccessibility which is on the 2 o'clock side of the continent from the Pole.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_inaccessibility
    On 27 December 2011, Sebastian Copeland and partner Eric McNair-Landry were the first to reach the 82°06′S 54°58′E southern pole of inaccessibility without outside support from the Novolazerevskaya Base on their way to the South Pole to complete the first crossing of Antarctica through both poles, over 4,000 km

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_inaccessibility#/media/File:C%E1%BB%B1c_b%E1%BA%A5t_kh%E1%BA%A3_ti%E1%BA%BFp_c%E1%BA%ADn_nam_-_Southern_Pole_of_inaccessibility.jpg
    South Pole of Inaccessibility:S82°06.696, E055°01.951

    But when you look at their map, their travel is from 12:00
    http://lh3.ggpht.com/43iHBsNgpMCU3QXYtRc8oTXuJnudMXTqtpFpdaGVQvzsL9bHX7hIxZdlhZeyKjbyAVtFH4bguQqJVkI-yPDqbA

    The point of inaccessability is much more accessible from Novo.
    Bust and plaque at ‘Pole of Inaccessibility.’ 83°06'S, 54°58'E. Station building to which a bust of Vladimir I. Lenin is fixed, together with a plaque in memory of the conquest of the Pole of Inaccessibility by Soviet Antarctic explorers in 1958.
    http://www.polarheritage.com/index.cfm/Sitelist01up

    Using different criteria, the Scott Polar Research Institute locates this pole at 85°50′S 65°47′E.
    SOUTHERN POLE OF INACCESSIBILITY 85°50'S, 65°47'E
    Location on the surface of the Antarctic continent which is most distant from the Southern Ocean. First reached in 1957 by a Soviet Antarctic Expedition which established 'Sovetskaya' station occupied during the 1957-58 austral summer.
    [closed Jan 3 1959]
    http://www.spri.cam.ac.uk/resources/infosheets/23.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovetskaya_%28Antarctic_Research_Station%29

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Hi, I'm Captain Rick of the Virtual Circumference Voyage of Antarctica. I intend to prove definitively if Earth is flat or a sphere by paying careful attention to how many miles we cover as we travel "around" Antarctica. Flat earth theory says it's 50-60,000 miles. Spherical Earth theory says it 14,000 miles. Join me and ask any questions that you think would help our mission.

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